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Thomas Saville   (1800 - 1835)

Thomas was born 29 May 1800.  He was a clerk.

Elizabeth Margaret Dutton Hall   (1804 - 18??)

Elizabeth was born 21 November 1804 in Marylebone, London.

They were married 29 April 1829.  He was 28, she was 24.  They were living in St Pancras, London, in 1830, and in Camberwell in 1832.  Thomas died aged 35, 6 October 1835, before the birth of their last child.   He was buried at St James, Clerkenwell, Islington.  The family were living in Holborn in 1836, at 54 Clifton street, St Pancras, in 1851, and at 8 Clara Place, Woolwich, in 1861.   In 1871 Elizabeth was living at 33 Fish Street hill, Camberwell, with her daughter Mary (Payne).

Their children were:

Thomas Saville was born 9 November 1830, St Pancras, London.  He was a carpenter and married Jane ..... They lived in London, but also in rugby (1871, 1881).   Their children were Laura J. (c.1857), Walter J. (1860) and Reginald (c.1863).

Mary Saville was born 7 July 1832 in Camberwell, London.  She married George Payne in Hackney, London, 4 April 1859.

John Hall Saville *** was born 16 June 1834 in Camberwell, London.  He married twice, his second wife being Jane Cooper, formerly Quin, from Dumfriesshire.   They were married in Australia and had three sons, Thomas Charles *** and John (1867 twins) and William John (1875).  John, senior, died in 1900.

Edmund Hall Saville *** was born 18 march 1836, Holborn, London.  See next.

Edmund Hall Saville ***   (1836 - 1900)

Born 18 March 1836 in Holborn, London, Edmund became an engineer and engine fitter.  He is also believed to have taught engineering at Goldsmith's Institute, now part or London University.

Charlotte Jane Loftin ***   (1840 - 1928)

Charlotte was born 4 June 1840 at 14 Green Court, Blackfrairs, London.

Both were living at 8 Clara Place, Woolwich when on 22 December 1861 they were married at Woolwich Parish Church.  He was 25, she was 21.  They also lived at Wellington Street, Woolwich (1863), 22 Princes Street, Lambeth (1864 - 68) and 25 Dorking Road, Deptford (1870 - 81).  Charlotte's mother was living with them in 1871 and 1881.  Edmund died 12th January 1900, aged 63.   Charlotte was living with her son George and family in 1901.  She lived to the age of 88 and died as a result of a fire in her home at 21 Corston Street, Deptford on 8 August 1928.

Their children were all born in south-east London:

Jane Saville *** was born 14 February 1863.  She was known as Ginny and was a teacher.  She married Albert Edward Wood 13th June 1886 at Deptford and had nine children, Albert E (1888) ***, Mabel L (Cissie) (1889), Gertrude P (1890), Florence J (Flossie) (1991), William H, Marguerite E (Ethel), Emily M M (Emmie), Doris S. (Dolly) and Elva May (Bay).

Emily Saville was born 22 December 1864.  She died 24 February 1865 aged 2 months.

Edmund John Saville was born 13th January 1866.  He married Alice Evans at Deptford and had two? children, Rosa (c.1896) and ?

Elizabeth Saville was born 28 June 1868.  She married John Henry Crane at Deptford 31 July 1892 and lived in Croydon.  They had 4 children, John Edmund (c.1894), Frank (c.1896), Percy Henry (c.1898) and Stanley Frederick (abt.1905).

Mary Saville was born 9 December 1870.  She married George Edward Moore at Otford, Kent, 12 December 1898.

Ada Saville was born 21 September 1873.  She died 19 September 1875, aged 2.

Alfred Saville *** was born 15 July 1876.  See next.

George Saville *** was born 9 January 1879.  
An engineer, he married Edith Ellen Shackleford 26 December 1898 at Deptford.   They had 7 children, Wilfred John (1900), Winifred Edith (1900), Albert George (1901) ***, Elsie (1902), Leonard Charles (1903), Reginald Victor (c.1907), Ivy Lilian (1909), Elsie May (1913) and Sydney Frederick (1915).   Edith died in 1949, George in 1951.

Alfred Saville ***   (1876 - 1955)  

Alfred was born 15 July 1876 at 25 Dorking Road, Deptford.  He also lived at 2 Burchell Road, Peckham. When he left school he and his brother, George, opened a workshop where they made and sold bicycles.   Later he became an engineer with the General Engine and Boiler Co. and stayed with them until he retired, reaching the position of foreman.

Elizabeth Emily Grimani ***   (1874 - 1966)  

Elizabeth was born 10 September 1874 at 44 Bowles Road, Old Kent Road, Camberwell.  She also lived in Asylum Road, Peckham and at 2 Burchell Road, Peckham, and attended a small private school.  She sang and played the piano, and when she finished school she stayed on as a music teacher.

Known as Alf and Bessie, they were married 29 October 1899 at St.Mark's Church, Peckham.  He was 23, she was 25.  They lived in New Cross at first, then about 1904 they moved to Brockley, Aspinall Road, and later 54 Arica Road.  Then in 1912 they moved to 77 Ivydale Road, Nunhead, where they lived for 21 years.  In 1933 Bessie inherited a substantial sum of money from her uncle, Edmund Hornby Grimani, who had been Commissioner of Customs in China.  With this money they bought a semi-detached house at 51 Pickhurst Lane, Hayes, Kent and named it "Hornby".  They also bought a holiday bungalow on the Kent coast at 13 Sunbeam Avenue (later renamed 2 Crossley Avenue), Studd Hill, Herne bay, and named this "Little Hornby".  

When Alfred retired in 1944 they moved permanently to "Little Hornby".  Alf took an active part in the affairs of the Studd Hill Housing Association and was a keen gardener.  He died in 1955 at the age of 78.

Elizabeth survived her husband by 11 years, living alone on an estate of holiday homes with few winter residents and far from any shops.  She died at the age of 92 after being knocked down by a motor car in December 1966.

Both were buried at Herne Cemetery.

They had 3 children:  

Violet Elizabeth Saville was born 10 January1901 in New Cross.  
An accomplished pianist and singer like her mother, she married William Charles Shaw, a post office engineer who was born in India (his father was in the army there).  They lived at 166 Bourne Vale, Hayes, and had one daughter, Daphne Violet (1923) who married Eric Wayman, but divorced without issue.  Daphne bought "Little Hornby" on the death of her grandmother, and moved there when she retired.   Bill died 15 March 1970.  Vi also moved to Herne Bay, to 9 Cresta Close (across the road from "Little Hornby") in 1983.  She died there in 1992, aged 91.

Frederick Charles Saville was born 22 November 1902 in New Cross.  
An engineer, he married Kathleen Twitchet.  They lived at 251 Langley Way, West Wickham, and had one child, David (1946).  Fred died in June 1961, aged 58.  Kath died in 1992.

Gladys May Saville *** was born 27 November 1905 in Brockley.  
She married Cecil Owen Martin ***

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George Saville (b. 1879)
Edith Elene Shackleford 

Alfred Saville (1876 - 1955)
Elizabeth Emily Grimani (1874 - 1966)

Elizabeth Emily Grimani (1874 - 1966)

"Little Hornby", Studd Hill, Herne Bay, Kent

Left to right:
Violet Elizabeth Saville (1901 - 1992)
Gladys May Saville (1905 - 1991)
Frederick Charles Saville (1902 - 1961)

Violet Elizabeth Saville (1901 - 1992)

Frederick Charles Saville (1902 - 1961)

Gladys May Saville (1905 - 1991)